The Employees’ Provident Fund Organization (EPFO) has around Rs.27,000 crore lying in inoperative accounts. There are chances that a small portion of this unclaimed money is yours. Many employees feel that the EPF account transfer is a cumbersome process and is a painful experience. It is often observed that we just ignore to transfer the funds to the existing EPF account.
EPFO do not pay interest on the EPF account, where no contributions (no activity) have been received for 36 or more months continuously. EPFO considers this type of account as an ‘Inoperative EPF Account.’ It is a daunting task to trace an inoperative EPF account and also we hardly get any help or support from EPFO.
In this post, let us understand – How to trace an inoperative EPF account? How to trace an old Employee Provident Fund a/c? What is EPFO’s online inoperative EPF account help-desk? What is the procedure to submit an online request?
Now, things are changing for the better at EPFO. It’s a good time to remember your long forgotten EPF account. And to make your job of staking a claim easier, an EPFO inoperative account online helpdesk has been launched recently.
Trace & track your Old & Inoperative EPF account using EPFO’s Inoperative Account Help Desk
The helpdesk works on the basis of how much and how accurate is the information that you can provide about your old / dormant EPF account(s). So, the more you provide, the better it is.
- Visit epfindia portal and click on ‘Inoperative A/c Helpdesk’ link.
- This will take you to ‘EPFO helpdesk website.’
- Click on ‘first-time user’.
- You have to provide a small description of your problem and click on ‘next’ button.
- In the next screen, you have to provide your old employment details. These details are like – your old company (establishment) code, PF account number, company address, date of joining etc.,You may use ‘search establishment’ option to get your old company details. (I believe that it is not mandatory to provide all the details. But, provide as much information as possible). Click on ‘next’ button.
- In the next page, you will be asked to enter your personal details like – your name, mobile number, date of birth, email id etc., Note that mobile number and name are mandatory fields. You can also enter your Aadhar number, PAN number and Bank account Details.
- Once you have keyed in the required information, click on ‘Generate PIN’. You will receive PIN on your mobile number. You need to enter this PIN to get the ‘Reference number’ on the screen. Kindly save the reference number for future use. ( In-case if you forget the reference number, you can get it, provided you have entered your DOB while submitting your personal details)
After submitting the request to the helpdesk, your query will be forwarded to the concerned EPFO’s Field Officer (Regional office). This happens if you have provided your old company’s code (Establishment code). If you have not provided the establishment code, your query is routed to the centralized EPFO helpdesk. They will call you to get more details and then your query will be forwarded to the concerned field officer to trace the old & inoperative EPF account.
How can I check the status of my request on EPF Inoperative Account Helpdesk online portal?
EPFO helpdesk portal has a facility to track the status of your request(s), based on the reference number.
- Visit EPFO helpdesk portal.
- Click on ‘Existing User’.
- It takes you to a new window as below and click on ‘Login’ as ‘Registered Member.’ Enter the reference number and mobile number to check the status of your request.
- If you have forgotten the reference number, click on ‘Forgot reference no’. In the next screen, you have to enter the mobile number and Date of Birth to receive your reference number.
Once your account is traced by the EPFO’s field officer, you will be notified through an SMS. You need to either withdraw the monies (by submitting Form 9) or transfer your old EPF account to your current EPF account.
If you are currently employed and have activated your Universal Account Number (UAN), link the old EPF account with your current EPF Account. Once the linking is complete, you can transfer the EPF funds online.
Trace and track your old EPF accounts. Even if the amount of your claim is small, reclaim it NOW. Kindly share your views on EPF inoperative EPF account help-desk facility. Cheers!
Latest Update (30-March-2016) : The Employees Provident Fund Organization (EPFO) has decided to provide Interest on Inoperative Accounts from 1st April, 2016.
Latest News (31-Oct-2016) : ‘Rate of Interest on Inoperative EPF accounts’ – EPFO to pay 8.8% as interest on Inoperative EPF (Employee Provident Fund) accounts. In case of EPF, if there is no contribution paid during the last 36 months, then that account is classified as “inoperative”. The inoperative accounts are not being paid interest since 2011. Around Rs 42,000 crore is lying in “inoperative accounts” across the country. About 9.70 crore employees will benefit from this proposed notification. Henceforth, the concept of Inoperative accounts will cease to exist. (Source : PTI & Union Labour Ministry)
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Can we submit on line PF form for withdrawal of PF amount in In-operative account.
Dear Taware ..Online withdrawals can be done only when Aadhaar has been seeded to UAN and verified, which may not be the case with In-operative account.
Kindly read : How to withdraw EPF online?
Clicking on “Existing user” shows error message 🙁
The requested URL /DashboardHelpdeskNew/index.jsp was not found on this server.
I really appreciate all your efforts to consolidate all this information at one place. This site is awesome.
I am not sure if I would be getting the amount now, as I had worked with my previous employer for a period of 8 months in 2006. However, if I have to visit the previous employer in person, that might not be possible. Is there a way we can get this processed online? I know the above article mentions getting the inoperative PFs online only after it is verified with the employer. My current employer has a private trust, not sure if I should be concerned about this.
Dear Mahavir ..As suggested in the above article, try using inoperative held desk.
One more option can be – You can transfer old EPF a/c monies to new one.
Read : How to consolidate multiple EPF accounts?
Thanks you Sree for this , so helping article with detailed SOP. Appreciate your efforts.
Dear Sir,
My Name is Dattatray Ramrao Kadam, I was working in Welmade Locking system Pvt. Ltd. (PUPUN0031105000) period 01st February 2008 to 24th August 2008 but i haven’t PF Account No. so please help me for PF No.
& tell me if i want withdrew the amount. please tell me what is procedure.
Thanks & Regards,
Dattatray Kadam
Mob. 7588523805
Dera DATTATRAY ..You can submit your request for withdrawal through inoperative EPF helpdesk. Kindly provide whatever information you have in the request..
I had submitted a request for my inoperative account about 2 weeks back & got a reference number after successfully registering for the claim. When i go to check the status of my claim it doesn’t open the page. Now i have checked it in multiple browsers on different days & still get the “server not found” display. Not sure how to proceed further.
Abhijit
Dear Abhijit..There can be a tech issue with EPFO portal. You may try after few days.
Also, you submit your grievance online..click here ..
I tried using inoperative help desk but it took them two months to get back to me. They told me to apply withdrawal from ex-emp. Then i visited ex emp and got signed on form 19, 10c. I personnely visited relevant epf office, mumbai and submitted the forms two months ago. Still no update on claim. I again visited pf office 2 weeks ago since they never pick calls. All they said will be done by next week and still no update. Such a pathetic service and waste of time. grivielence guys also take so many days to respond. Anyway just shared my experience for readers. I think for in operative account better connect to ex-emp or relevant epf office. I guess no direct transfer without filling forms. My question: will i get interest since there is no official notification yet?
Dear Mukesh,
May be, you could have requested your ex-employer to get the forms processed..
Yes, I believe that there is no official notification on ‘interest payment for dormant PF accounts’..so I am not sure on this..
Hi,
I had quit “X” company in 2010 and am still to withdraw my EPF amount.This account has been been marked”Inoperative”.So I went through with the requisite process today described here to make it operative.My question is to withdraw the relevant amount, should I contact my previous employer or the PF amount transfer can be initiated through the government run EPF portal without my previous employer’s help.I am assuming that I will get the proper response from EPFO Inoperative Account Help Desk.
Dear RAUNAK ..Are you employed and contributing to EPF scheme now?
Yes, you may get a reply from EPFO help-desk with necessary steps to be taken..
I am currently self-employed.I am also not contributing to the EPF scheme.So I can withdraw the amount through the EPFO website and the help-desk will guide with the necessary steps.This is what you are implying.
Dear RAUNAK ..Yes, they may give you the required steps.
Mostly, you may have to contact your ex-employer and route withdrawal application through them.
Ok..thanks.will do the same..I hope the withdrawal procedure is smooth
Hi Sreekanth,
Can we check online how much amount is there in my inoperative PF account.
Dear Harish..I don’t think there is any online provision to track dormant account balance.
Once can transfer in-operative a/c balance to an existing EPF account.
My EPF account status is inoperative account. I saw the latest news says below, With this will all accounts will be operative after April 2017, as interest is paid or they will be still remain inoperative?
Latest News (31-Oct-2016) : ‘Rate of Interest on Inoperative EPF accounts’ – EPFO to pay 8.8% as interest on Inoperative EPF (Employee Provident Fund) accounts.
Dear Pavan ..Yes, EPFO has said that they will pay interest even on Inoperative accounts, but there is no official notification yet on this.
Hi I have In operative account,I am following everything what you have said above.But Iam not receiving OTP so i am unable to procee further
Dear Pritesh ..Can be tech issue..You may submit your grievance at this link..
Dear Sreekanth Reddy,
That’s great to hear from your comments where there is a possibility of getting my PF claimed,It’s been more than years i tried many measures to claim my PF. However, I Couldn’t find the way to do so. When recently i check two of my old companies PF accounts they were into inoperative account. I scanned around the google no hope and no traces about the companies.I logged into EPFO and seek help from Help desk that doesn’t help either. From my very recent company i claimed my PF, Hopefully the company created my UAN number,Having that number i merged both the old pf accounts to that UAN still that dint help either. Now desperately need your advice……..
Thanks in advance
Dear Ramkumar,
Kindly read this article, can be useful to you : How to consolidate multiple EPF accounts?
Thanks for your prompt response, But have done these steps still no hope.. I have tried merge my PF to the UAN number two months, Everyday I logged in to check but no action taken yet…
Just ask idea triggered, shall I post it on grievance…
Dear Ramkumar,
I believe that there are some technical challenges being faced by the EPFO, they are upgrading their system infrastructure i guess..
Yes, you may try posting your grievance, @ click here..
That’s sounds great,Thanks much very appreciated your immediate response.. Good day bye
Hi Sreekanth…
Valid information… Thank you for sharing the same… I’ve worked with three organizations in India from July 2006 to January 2010 and moved to Dubai with a new assignment. I’ve neither linked my three EPF accounts nor withdrawn any amount so far. Kindly advise how I can track these funds and link them together before placing a withdrawal request
Thanks,
Nisanth N Menon
Dear Nisanth,
Kindly read : ‘One Employee & one EPF account online’ facility..
Thanks for details information. I have file my request for In-operative Account. Now, cant check status as DashboardHelpdeskNew is down.
It is 9th Jan 2017 and the website to track the request is still down.
Use this URL
http://59.180.231.60:9091/DashboardHelpdeskNew/
and click login at the top right corner of the screen
HI Sir,
I worked in a XXX in 2010 for 9 months, than after i absconding the company, i have a PF no at that time.
Plesae tel me sir how can i do the further.
Thanks,
SS
Dear Silambarasan ..Are you employed and contributing to EPF scheme now?
You can submit whatever details you have through in-operative help desk.
thank you for your reply. i am not working any ware i started small business from our home town.
I have PF number only how can i check my pf amount and withdrawal procedure.
I am from chennai but my PF account Bangalore “BG-BNG-0006941-000-000” whether i fill and submit the withdrawal form.
Dear Silambarasan,
Suggest you to submit your withdrawal request through above helpdesk portal.
If this is not possible, you can submit the withdrawal forms through your ex-employer.
i am absconding the company how can i submit forms through ex-employer.
Please tel me other options if any
also please tel me I am from chennai but my PF account Bangalore “BG-BNG-0006941-000-000” whether i fill and submit the withdrawal form.
Dear Silambarasan,
You may have to visit the PF office in person and submit the documents.
Suggest you to submit an affidavit (self declaration) stating about the closure of the company and also that you are unemployed now.
Enclose, pan card copy, bank cheque leaf cancelled one, form 15 g (if applicable) along with the withdrawal forms.
You can get the documents notarized by a gazetted officer.
Hi Sreekanth,
Reaching out to you because you seem to be actively responding to questions related to this article. I appreciate that approach since I have seen plenty of pseudo experts who publish an article but are unresponsive or unable to answer questions.
As you would be aware, as per 11/11/2016 notification of labor ministry, only PF accounts of persons “retired from service after attaining age of 55 or who migrated abroad permanently” will now be considered inoperative.
Unfortunately, the EPFO helpdesk portal you posted in this article is NOT helpful to those who belong to one of those two categories – people who migrated abroad permanently, because it doesn’t have a provision to accept foreign mobile phone numbers.
Please advice how people who migrated abroad permanently can avail online services of EPFO helpdesk?
Looking forward to a quick response.
Thanks in advance.
Sreekanth,
What is the solution for this scenario? I too face this problem, since I’m permanently settled outside India.
Hi..Kindly try reaching them at these contact numbers...Click here..
HI Sir,
I worked in a PNB bank in 2012 for six months, than after i resigned , i have a PF no at that time.
After that i never worked , But in 2015 i joined a new private company and got a new PF account and UAN also.
Now, My query is can i get or transfer my old PF amount (year 20012) to my new PF account without employer’s communication ( because it will take a lot of my time ) .
What is the process so that i can get the old company PF amount (year 2012).
Thanks
Dear Kul,
You have to communicate with your ex-employer and get this done.
You may also route this transfer request through one-Employee-one-EPF account facility. EPFO can help you to get this done quickly.
Error page is thrown on clicking “Existing User Click here to view status”. I’ve already registered and have the reference id. But couldn’t check the status as the page is down for long time.
i wrked with an orginisatin with old epf nmbr….fr about 5 months.. will i be able to withdrawy balance
Dear Munish..If you are contributing to EPF again, kindly transfer the funds to your new a/c.
Else, you can withdraw the funds.
Hi Srikanth
I have a question about my PF. I worked in india for about 8 yrs till 2008. After that i have moved to US. I would like to know if my PF can be withdrawn now. Also is there any time limit for withdrawing.
Dear veera ..You can withdraw the entire PF balance. There is no time-limit as such (max – 58 years of age ie retirement age).
Your EPF a/c would have become inoperative, so suggest you to submit your withdrawal request through the inoperative help desk facility.
Dear Mr.Sreekanth,
I’ve submitted online request of EPF Inoperative Account Transfer almost 13 days ago, but not yet received any response from Helpdesk.
Kindly tell me what should I do next..or how many days should I wait.
Regards-
Arup.
Dear ARUP ..You may register your grievance at this link..click here..
Hi Sreekanth,
Thanks for the details. This information is very helpful.
Kiran
Hello,
My mobile number associated with my EPF account has been deactivated, and I’ve forgotten my online password.
How can I reset my password and registered mobile number of my EPF account?
Also, I’m living abroad now, and expect to be here for next 2 years. Is there a way I can prevent the account from becoming inactive by making voluntary contribution?
Regards
Ratan
Dear Ratan,
If you are not employed with the concerned company and not contributing to EPF then you can’t make voluntary contributions.
Read: UAN – Mobile number issues & solutions – helpdesk.
Correction on the employment start date which is April 24, 1989.
Dear Parasuraman,
You may submit your withdrawal request through in-operative help-desk, provide whatever details you have with you when submitting your request.
hi im a resigned my job 2 years back but ,in epf ac I have 25000 amount how can I get that amount
Dear malhothra ..Are you currently employed and contributing to EPF scheme again?
You can submit the EPF withdrawal forms to your ex-employer.
In case if your UAN KYC details have been verified by your employer, you can submit new EPF withdrawal forms directly to EPFO.
Hello there,
My name is Parasuraman T K currently living in outside India I was employed in Mumbai with private company called Piramal Spg & Wvg Mills Ltd which was acquired by Marathon Nextgen Realty Ltd which are closed. I was employed with them during period from 24 April 1991 to 3 May 1991. I have the company release letter issued by the Personal department from Piramal Spg & Wvg Mills Ltd. and also the appointment letter. I have been chasing people from Nextgen Realty Ltd and PF office in Bandra with no success. I am seeking to some guidance to get the EPF# and necessary information as I do not have any pay slips to know my EPF number. How can I get this resolved?
Thank you in advance and regards
Parasuraman
I once worked in India as an expart for 4 years and was contributing PF. As at now I have come back to my country. I will not be able to get back to India and not yet attained the retirement age. My PF Account will be inoperative after a period of about 36 months.How can I withdraw the full ?
Dear Louis ..You may just submit your online request using the above help-desk portal. You can route your PF withdrawal request through your employer too. Have you tried this option?
hello sir
i worked in MNC for 4 years and 10 months and now i have resigned from my company and i want to withdraw my all my PF amount.
can i get my whole PF amount or i get only my contribution ?
what is the rule?
Dear sameer ..If you are unemployed for more than 60 days, you can withdraw full PF balance.
Can we transfer an inoperative PF account online? I have an PF account which is dormant since 2011. I have all the required details and UAN for my active PF account as well.
Dear Ravi..I believe Yes. Suggest you to submit your request through one Employee – one EPF scheme online facility.
thank u for sharing this kind of useful information. its help me alot.
thank u
if a person have leaved the state where he used to do the job and presently staying in his own native states he has to visit the that previous state where he was working before or he can get details of his pf accout by staying in his own state and withdraw the pf amount by staying in his own state?
Dear Chittaranjan ..You have to contact your concerned PF regional office.
Good Blog. Saved my time. Thank you.
How long does the help desk they take to respond. I have submitted my query 10 days back and still no response.
Sir,
I was working for a software company in bangalore from 2006 – 2008. As i got married and had to go abroad with my husband ,I could not close my PF account and withdraw the PF money immediately. But unfortunately, the company was overtaken by another company in 2010.
I am aware that my pf account is moved to inoperative account now, after 8 years. I contacted the inoperative desk but there is no proper response. I was said to submit the PF withdrawal forms through my employer. But since my employer does not exists any more, i am not able to proceed further.
Also, when I check for the establishment code search, my employer establishment code shows another name with 10 employees.
How can I proceed further in my case ? can I send the forms directly to the banglore epf office to withdraw my pf amount ?
Dear Prema,
You may have to visit the PF office in person and submit the documents.
Suggest you to submit an affidavit (self declaration) stating about the closure of the company and also that you are unemployed now.
Enclose, pan card copy, bank cheque leaf cancelled one, form 15 g (if applicable) along with the withdrawal forms.
You can get the documents notarized by a gazetted officer.
I have two PF accounts 1 is inoperative and 2nd is active. In the older, I have 4 yrs service, with the 2nd, 2 yrs service . Now I am unemployed and wants to withdraw the complete amount but have no complete information on this. Please help me to proceed further in this case.
And just to let you know that i have already linked both pf accounts with my UAN ID and got approved by employer. Please advise next step..
Dear Chahat,
You can read this article : How to consolidate multiple EPF a/c?
You can consolidate the accounts and then withdraw whole PF amount.
Hi, I don’t see any interest in my dormant EPF account for last year. Last interest was credited on 31-03-2015. I quit my job on Oct-2012. So as per the new rule, Govt will pay the interest in dormant account. Please help me in my doubt.
Dear MS,
Yes, as per one of the latest notifications the EPFO has to pay interest amount on in-operative accounts too.
The interest rate was recently notified by the Govt, there may be a delay in crediting the interest payment.
However, you can submit your grievance to EPFO, click here..
Not able to open that site
Dear
I have worked in Mysore Public school – Mysore during 2000 – 2002. I have made a complaint to PF Dept regarding my inoperative Fund. My reference no is . 16061093249 . please update the progress
SIR
I WAS WORKING IN A COMPANY SAMRAT ASHOKA EXPORTS PVT. LTD.IN THE YEAR 1985 AND I HAVE NOTE CLAIMED FOR MY PF AMOUNT BECAUSE THE COMPANY HAS BEEN LOCKED OUT
I HAVE THE PF SLIP FORM 23 FOR THE YEAR 1990-91. HOW CAN I WITHDRAW MY PF MONEY
KINDLY LET ME KNOW
Dear BHASKAR ji,
Are you contributing to EPF Scheme now?
You can submit your request through EPF inoperative helpdesk.
Link to check the status of my request on EPF Inoperative Account Helpdesk online portal is not working for past 1 week. What can be done about it?
Dear Sir,
Here is Ramchandra Yadav I worked with my previous employer from 2004 to 2006. I have not made a claim for withdrawal of money till today.My EPF account is coverted inoperative.My Member ID- MR/MRT/0023444/000/0000030 . As you have suggested for inoperative account hepl desk.I have try for several times for register in this but site is not responding for generating PIN. so please suggest how can i withdrawal the money or transfer this inoperative account with mu current Employer.
Hii… Sir you can do one more thing you can submit form 9 and can withdraw your pf amount or u can give your old UAN details to your current employer he will map your old account with current one after that you can withdraw also.
Thanks
Sunaina
I guess during weekend it wont generate pin. I also faced same issue.
Please try again during a weekday
Dear vimal ..I think some technical maintenance work is being performed and the impact can be till 13th of july.
Hi Sir,
Thanks for providing such a beneficial information to us.
I have an PF account with my old company and I left the job in 2011. Now can I activate my old PF account and continue it with PF money transfer?
Please reply!
Thanks,
Dear Sonia,
Yes, you can do so.
Also, read: How to club old EPF account(s) through one Employee – One EPF a/c online facility?
Thanks for your reply!
Sir, as I mentioned above that I want to activate my old PF account and hand it over to my existing employer to start PF contributions once again. My current company is asking to open my PF account but I want to retain my old account here with this company.
Another confusion is this that my old employer said that withdraw your PF and ask your existing company to open new PF account because your account i.e. 2011 is very old and can’t be activated now.
Please suggest me that how much time it will take to activate my old PF account and can I give it to the existing company for PF contributions that is going to start from next month and what will be the procedure and documents I need to require to get this task done.
I have my PF account no with me.
Please suggest and reply asap, waiting for your respons!
Thanks.
Dear sonia,
Your new employer has to create new EPF a/c (new member id).
You can only transfer old PF a/c money to the new EPF a/c.
As you have your EPF a/c (old) one, kindly ask your employer to create new EPF a/c and you can then submit a request in INOPERATIVE HELPDESK to transfer old PF a/c money to the new one.
Dear sir,
I do not know my Id no.
Also what is Id no.?
I have deputee Id on system. Is it Id no. Or not.
Please also help me how to active UAN no.
Actually I have worked in a company and left it more than one year. I have submitted twice all documents for pf withdrawal but till now claim not received. Employer is also not cooperating.
My pf office in Chennai but i live in patna. So, I am unableto approach the pf office.
Again request you to help me for pf withdrawal.
Dear Chandan,
Are you currently employed?
Kindly read:
What is Establishment code, Member-Id (PF a/c no) & EPF a/c format..
How to generate UAN number online?
New EPF withdrawal forms..
Sir,
i worked for establishment for 3 yrs after leaving i applied for withdrawal of PF . However the amount was transferred to somebody else having different account no in a different bank branch got to know this after filling grievance with epfo office. what should i do now?….I have already filled an RTI application but got the same reply….
Dear Uttam..You may have to meet EPF commissioner of your Regional PF office and escalate this issue. You may also take help of your ex-employer.
Hi Shrikant,
First of all thank you for this information and you doing a great job.
My query – A friend of mine has a issue with PF. He is working in a certain company from 2007 and in 2012 company was taken over by a major group having it’s own EPF system approved by Government of India. So,n ow when we check in the EPF website of Indian government it shows all the details about him but in passbook it is not showing any balance. Secondly in his current company’s website for EPF his contribution is seen from April 2012. Means no money from previous years is transferred.
Please suggest what to do?
Dear Shrikant,
The old EPF account number would have been different, your friend has to transfer the old PF a/c to new EPF a/c.
Read:
Inoperative PF a/c helpdesk.
How to consolidate old EPF accounts?
Dear Shreekanth Reddy, nice article on Inoperative PF account.
I worked for a company during 1997-2001. The PF was not withdrawn. Lot of search did not help me getting my PF account number.
I have sent a query to PF office as advised by you with all the required details and got a reference number too. I have not received any feedback from PF Help desk from last 10 days. How long I should wait? Is there any other way I can esquire about the PF account number.
Jitendra
9820144550
Dear Jitendra,
Are you currently contributing to EPF scheme?
Kindly go through below articles, can be useful;
How to consolidate old EPF accounts?
How to read EPF account number format?
EPFO grievance portal
Dear Sreekanth, yes I was contributing till May 16. Left the job now Its a trust. Reliance Industries.
Worked for 3 and half years so PF withdrawal is taxable.
I had worked for a company 15 years back but do not know my old PF account number. I want to transfer this to new account. Raised query for old account number with EPFO portal got reference number but no reply from from portal yet. How to follow up?
The EPFO grievance portal is not accepting the reference number. Do they have centre where we can call.
Regards,
Jitendra
Dear Jitendra..Suggest you to submit your request at EPFO’s one Employee – One EPF facility.
Dear Sreekanth
I worked in a company from Sep 11 to Apr 12, PF amount accumulated is 80,000(Employee and employers contribution) including interest, I could get this details from EPF tracker. Now my account is dormant/inoperative, I have not transferred it to new EPF account. I want to withdraw my PF in Sep 2016 where PF account completes 5 yrs though my service with employer was for 8 months. If I withdraw it in Sep 2016, will it be taxable?
Thank you so much for the help and quick responses I could see to needy people. Great work!!
Thanks,
Nilesh
Dear Nilesh..If you are employed and contributing to EPF now, suggest you to transfer old EPF money to the new one. There are high chances that your withdrawal request may not be accepted and processed by the EPFO if you are currently making contributions to EPF.
Hello Sir,
I had worked for an IT Company from July 2010 to March 2013, I had left work because I was ill and then from 2014 to 2016 i pursued my Masters Degree. Now I wanted to know whether my pf account is active or not? Also when I left my job, I had opted for a PF transfer as well.
Now in a few days, I would be joining a new company and there they would require my details so that is why I have asked this. Also the new employer wants my Universal Account Number.. what is this?
Dear Saurabh..You have mentioned that you have transferred your PF? So, to which a/c have you transferred as you were unemployed right?
Kindly go through below articles;
EPF inoperative Account helpdesk.
All you need to know about UAN!
How to generate UAN online?
Hello Sir,
Thank you for your response. In my previous firm, there was an option to either settle it or transfer the account. I opted for transfer but due to my ill health, i did not join any company and instead pursued my masters degree.
I just checked my previous mails, I guess post 6 months, I got a final settlement bill from my previous company.
Also, I am not able to track my PF number as well.. How to solve this?
Dear Saurabh..I am unable to comprehend your query…To which account have you transferred the money? You may use the inoperative account to know your EPF a/c details (if the EPF a/c is not settled).
hi
iam brahmam i worked 3years company.2008 to 2011.i have cheanged another company.how to apply my old pf balace.imy pf account no. ap/ptc/48328/**.i got una no number present company.
Dear brahmam,
Your old EPF a/c would have become in-operative. Suggest you to submit request at EPF helpdesk and apply for transfer of funds to your new EPF a/c.
I have applied for claim transfer as my old epf account to new epf account around 10 days ago.
Yesterday i.e (20-05-2016) i got the following message on my mobile
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MemberID: DLCPM00416************-154
PF CLAIMID DLCPM16***********
settled Amount Rs
2245Rs sent to a/c no 300717521***
(IFSC code:SBIN00059**)-EPFO
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the above mentioned a/c no does not belong to me than i checked the status on epf transfer cliam portal then i got following information
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STATUS for Member ID: DLCPM0041654000000****
Claim ID : DLCPM16***********
Status : Claim Form 13 for Transfer to New Account Number: AGAINST Old Member Account No
(DLCPM00416************) has been approved. Payment is under process.
* * Data available since last six months. * *
* * DELHINORTH data availaible from 20-11-2015. Last updated on 20-05-2016 at 10:15 am * *
* * Approval Details on PPO and Scheme Certificates will be made available soon.. * *
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i am enable to understand that what happening which A/C , he transfered my money , but i have applied only transfer my old epf account to new account.
so kindly tell me about it.
Thanks
Mohmmad Arif Ansari
Dear Mohmmad,
Kindly do not share sensitive information life your EPF a/c number, Bank a/c number etc on public forums.
Rs 2245 is the PF withdrawal amount. is that member id yours?
The second message is about EPF a/c transfer.
May I know what is the expected amount of PPF & EPS ?
You may also submit your grievance to EPFO, click here..
Dear Sreekanth
Not i didn’t applied for withdraw amount, i did only transfer old epf account to New epf account.
and this Bank A/C is not mine.
yes both is my My member id once is allotted by old company and another is allotted by new company.
Dear Mohmmad..That’s strange! As suggested kindly submit your grievance to EPFO. Even I am not sure about this!
Dear Sreekanth.
OK… i submitted my grievance …thanks to you very much for your help and your valuable time.
i have stopped working since one year. My epf is marked as inoperative. I read that only after 36 months epf acct gets marked as inoperative. Why is my epf account marked inoperative after one year of no contribution.
Dear shubha..That’s strange. Kindly submit your grievance with EPFO, click here..
Hi,
My husband had worked with AOL during 2004 for three months. During his tenure, the PF account number mentioned in his payslip was zero, and he hadn’t notice it then. Now when applying for a new job, the new company wants to know his PF account number of AOL. How do we track this PF number? AOL is now no more operating in India as it has been merged with another company. We would need your help very badly and urgently on how to track his AOL PF account number.
Thanks!
Bonnie
Dear Bonnie..Suggest you to kindly provide the information that you have while submitting the request through in-operative helpdesk and I believe that EPFO will get back to you with PF a/c and additional details.
Hello Sreekanth,
I have worked with an organisation for 13 months( Dec ’09- Jan’11)before going abroad. Now i do not have a bank account in India, so will it be possible for me to transfer ma PF account money to my NRI account?
Dear Kamal..I think it is possible to get the PF monies to NRI account. You may kindly check this with EPFO too.
Submit your request through helpdesk.
Hi, I am baldev .i have worked with three four companies from 2004 onwards but still now never withdrawn by pf account.two companies i do not have pf number.My last company i have pf no of west bengal the latter the account was transfered to jharkhand.presently i have UAN no with my current company.Can it possiable for me to get account details of all old accounts,please guide.
Regards
Dear Baldev,
Yes, you may kindly submit your request through helpdesk by providing all the possible/available information. Once you get your old PF a/c details from the EPFO, you can submit Transfer request to your new EPF a/c.
I am unable to generate PIN for the inoperative account. pls help . is there any other way ?
I am unable to generate PIN for the inoperative account. pls help . is there any other way ?
Hi Shreekanth
I had been working in IGB Technology Pvt Ltd form 1st July2009-23March2010. I have on
PF no – HR/GGN/30425/15 which is mentioned on my relieving letter but when i visited to PF office in Gurgaon, came to know that PF no is belongs to my other colleague. Kindly suggest me what i should do now.
Harpreet
Dear Harpreet,
Is it possible to approach the employer?
When did you apply for the withdrawal? Was it through the employer or by yourself.
Is the EPF a/c number same on your payslip/any other document?
HI THIS IS SRIKANTH
I DONT KNOW MY EPF NO AND UAN
I WANT TO KNOW MY PF AND UAN NO HOW ?
Dear SRIKANTH,
You can check with your employer or check your Payslip. (or) are you referring to old PF a/c?
You can find out your UAN number through uan helpdesk.
Yes Sreekanth,
Im currently with EPF scheme with different employer. Pl Guide how to get the amount from that previous employer.
Dear Dinesh,
You can get the old Pf a/c monies transferred to your new EPF a/c. Kindly go through the links shared in my previous comment.
Hi Sreekanth ,
In 2007 i have left my company and I did not withdraw my pf amount. after that i got a new job and in Dec2016 left the 2nd compnay and now i want to claim both PF a/cs . How to claim my old PF Account?
My OLD PF account is just of 5 digits in my salary slip PF ac no.is of 5 digit & EPS ac no is also 5 digits with that I am unable to get any information in online. Please help me.
Thanks and Regards
Amit Tah
Dear Amit,
Your old EPF a/c would have become in-operative one.
Suggest you to submit whatever details you can at in-operative helpdesk. The EPFO will get back to you with your PF a/c details and future course of action.
Second EPf a/c – Suggest you to submit withdrawal form to your employer and get it processed.
Read: New EPF withdrawal forms..
hi,
I Nageswararao Nimmala, Was worked between 1992 feb to 2000 May company called Karvy consultanat PVT LTD.
Can I know the my old PF no.?
Thanks
Dear Nageshwararao..Yes, you may try submitting your request at in-operative portal. Kindly provide all the information that you have while submitting your request.
Hi,
Srikanth
I was working for a company called parmaount corporate netwrok ltd from 1997 to 2003 i am yet to claim my PF KN/BN/19211/594 in the name of B S Jayanth.
pls help me to know the status and do the neeful to withdraw the same.
Regards
jayanth
Dear Jayanth..You can submit your request through in-operative helddesk and I am sure you will get response from the EPFO.
Incase if you are employed and contributing to EPF scheme, you can transfer the old a/c monies to new one, else you can withdraw the funds.
Hi Sreekanth Reddy,
In 2007 i have left my company and I did not withdraw my pf amount. after that i got a new job and in Dec2016 left the 2nd compnay and now i want to claim both PF a/cs . How to claim my old PF Account?
My OLD PF account is just of 5 digits in my salary slip PF ac no.is of 5 digit & EPS ac no is also 5 digits with that I am unable to get any information in online. Please help me.
Thanks and Regards
Satish Kumar
My father he was not in this world I know he was pf but I don’t know number and any thing how can I get all information about all that
Hi Sreekanth,
I had checked my PF balance in my Inoperative Account and i had around 1800.00 RS. In my request to EPFO itself i gave my complete Account details like my Account Name, IFSC Codes, etc.
Now my query here is, do i need to submit the Form 10 & 19 to withdraw the amount or EPFO will automatically transfer the amount to my Account which i had provided?
Dear Vanji..If the details submitted by you match with details that are available in EPFO’s database, they may automatically transfer it to your bank account.
Did you any sms or email message from them after submitting the details.
Hi Sreekanth,
I had raised the query and i got the reply from them in EPFO website as well as SMS that i need to sumit Form-19 & From 10C dually filled by my ExEmployer along with Cancelled Cheque leaf.
I have only one Bank Account and so obviously the details provided should match with EPFO database.
Please advise do i need to got ahead and submit the above mentioned documents to claim my money.
Thanks!
Dear Vanji..If they have advised so, suggest you to submit the documents. (I assume that you are not contributing to EPF scheme now and not employed currently)
Hi Sreekanth,
Thanks a lot. The above mentioned query is related to my Inoperative Account which is not operative for the last 5 years. So i thought of withdrawing it.
Anyways i will then submit the required documents and try to withdraw through the regular process.
Thanks!
Which Document Required to Claim In Operative account, My Old Company’s Contractor change so what to i do.
I have submitted the query and got reply from EPFO helpdesk that there is some balance in my inoperative PF account. But i do not have the PF account number. EPFO also not confirmed me the account number. Is there any way to get the PF Number
Dear Ravi..You submit your grievance to EPFO, click here..
Also, check your salary-slips or final settlement docs.
Sir I have lost my pan card but I have xerox in the withdrawl of pf amount whether we have to give pan number or we have to shoe original pan card
Dear Amrutha..You can enclose photocopy only.
But suggest you to apply for re-issue of PAN card.
Hi,
I have query regarding recent changes for PF withdrwal. Now latest rule says that you can not withdraw employer’s PF contribution till you are 60 years. Now as I am not working anymore so there will be no contribution to my PF A/c . So does this mean after 36 months no interest will be added to PF A/C ?. Moreover my PF A/C is managed by a TRUST. So I can not check balance as well. I know my UAN but it is of no use. So please suggest what is the way to get my PF money back?
Dear Surya,
It is not 60 years. Kindly read : Latest EPF withdrawal rules 2016.
Hey Sreekanth,
I had raised a query on EPFO In Operative Account Help Desk almost a month ago regarding withdrawal of PF money from one of my inoperative Account. But i had not received any response from them. I had provided all the required details, but still they have not come back. May i know whats the issue with the delay.
Thanks!!
Hi,
I was working earlier for an Organisation and resigned in the year Jan 2010. Since then am Self employed and have not had withdrawn my fund from PF. I donot have any UAN now though. So will i be able to withdraw the funds?. Have registered my case both ath the Inoperative account as well as the Greviance redressal – but have had no response.
The EPFO is in Bangalore. Let me know what options are available with me.
Dear Roopa,
When did you submit the requests? Because most of the blog readers who have submitted the requests using in-operative help desk did get response from the EPFO.
You may visit the nearest EPFO regional office in person and apply for withdrawal.
Kindly read:
Latest EPF withdrawal rules.
How to generate UAN online?
The request was submitted on the 14th March 2016. Let me however apply for my UAN and am also panning to visit the Local EPFO office.
i was working in a private firm
with EPF
now i am a goverment employ
with CPF
can merg these two and how
please help
Dear sufin..I believe that it is not allowed (but i am not sure).
Hi,
My contribution to PF was stopped in Oct 2013, as I got job overseas.
Since 3 years my PF account is inoperative.
Now if I withdraw the same, will I receive only employee contribution + Interest OR full amount?
Thanks
Murthy
Dear Sreenivasa..There is some confusion (no clarity) on this..Suggest you to submit your request through the inoperative helpdesk and find out if you can withdraw full PF balance or not. Request you to update here about the status so that it can be useful to other blog reader too. Thank you!
Awesome article! Thanks a ton for writing this blog and sharing this information.
I have left my current job and no longer working. My PF account was last credited on July ’13. Hence, I would assume that it will become inoperative by June ’16. However, I have another inoperative account earlier from other company which I worked earlier. If I transfer the money from that inoperative account to my existing one, will this credit be treated as contribution and further accrue interest for next 3 years? I do no wish to remove the money from this account.
Dear Manja,
Kindly read: Latest EPF withdrawal rules 2016.
Thanks. However, this new rule will conflict with the conditions of the inoperative account. If a person resigns then the 60% of the PF amount will be there without any interest. Is there any update on the inoperative accounts. I feel that they should remove this rules of inoperative account after 36 month. Kindly share your opinion
Dear Manja,
A person can withdraw his share + interest thereon and not the employer share.
As of now, no clarity on inoperative accounts.
But, one of our blog readers has contacted his Regional PF commissioner and enquired about ‘in-operative a/c’, he has been informed that ‘need not wait till 58 and can be withdrawn fully’. I am not endorsing this but its an update.
You can read this comment at this link…
Sreekath, Is there any update / clarity on the inoperative account? If the new changes of holding the employer contribution in PF until 58 years, then Govt’ should provide interest
Dear Manja..As of now, NO.
But looks like the EPFO is accepting full PF balance withdrawals on in-operative accounts (as of now). This has been shared by one of our blog readers.
how to get my pf amount back i forget my pf account number plz suggest me hw to get my money back….
Dear Ravi..You can provide all the possible details that you have while submitting the request. EPFO will get back to you and may let you know your old EPF a/c number.
dear sir, the details are the establishment is TD POWER SYSTEMS PVT LTD located in dabaspet bangalore rural district.. i worked thr from 7-12-2009 to 4-5-2012 my pan card number is AYUPR9941B and my date of birth is 13-06-1985 plz help me sir……
Hi
I did registered in inoperative help desk and its working fine. I am waiting for there reply. How fast this system works ? I have a 7 yrs old inoperative account. I have UAN number for my new account. But my earlier company is a defaulter and it is already closed. I tried withdrawal several times but not succeeded. Hope this help desk will help me to resolve my problem. Thanks for this blog. very helpful for us. My questions to u is
1. How fast this system works ?
2. Can I withdraw that money even though I have my new UAN number as I am working with some other company right now but I have already resigned from here also. My last working day will be March 30. I am not joining anyware after that. Now my plan is I want to withdraw both PF accounts in next few months.
Dear Prabhu,
1 – I am not sure about the time-line. Based on my experience and blog readers comments, while submitting the request if one provides most of the required details, you may mostly get SMS from EPFO within 7 days.
2 – As you are currently employed, it is better to transfer / link your old EPF a/c to your UAN and then apply for full PF balance withdrawal sometime in June.
Dear Sreekanth
I have already linked it to my existing UAN account. My question is when i link it to my existing account ( UAN ) what exactly happens ? will it show balance of my old account ? even though it is inoperative account. can i able to see the amount from my download pass book page ? What is the difference between linking the accounts to UAN and transferring the funds to one UAN. please clarify
Dear Prabhu,
Once you link old member-id (old epf a/c) to your UAN, the money from the older account will get transferred to the new account. But for old accounts (opened before the allotment of UAN), you still need to apply for funds transfer either in digital (in UAN portal) or physical form.
I WAS WORKING WITH A COMPANY 7-8 YEARS BACK AND THAT COMPANY SHUT DOWN THEIR ALL OF SUDDEN WITHOUT GIVING ANY PRIOR NOTICE AND WE ALSO NOT GOT OUR SALARY AND PF NOW THROUGH ONE OF MY FRIEND I GOT TO KNOW THAT I MIGHT GET MY PF IF I LOGGED MY DETAIL TO EPFO HELP DESK. I HAVE DONE THE SAME AND NOW I REQUEST TO EPFO KINDLY HELP ME TO GET MY PF. I HAVE PROVIDED ALL THE DETAILS AND IO HAVE GOT MY REFERENCE NO. I WILL BE THANKFUL IF I GET THE SAME.
ALTHOUGH VERY HELPFUL SITE.
REGARDS
AMIT SHARMA
Dear Amit..You will receive your funds 🙂 Do let me know if you need any help/info.
This article was much helpful. Thank you so much. I have raised a request now. They have informed that they will be contacting in some days time. Will it be possible for me to withdraw the amount from my previous PF account. If so how long can it take to get transferred to my bank account. Please advise.
Dear merrin..Are you currently employed? If so, transfer the old EPF monies to you new EPF a/c. Else you can apply for withdrawal. Generally the transfer can happen within 30 days.
Thank you Sreekanth.
Hello.
I am informed that with regards to PF funds, interests would not accrue to the same upon 3 years of accumulation (i.e., no withdrawals).
I wish to know if the same principle applies for accumulations in case of PF Trusts as well.
If possible, please provide the legal source ( either under the EPF Act/Scheme or a judgement/case-law) to support your answer.
Thank you.
Dear Dinesh,
I believe that your understanding is wrong. The EPF subscriber would get the interest amount on all the contributions.
It is only when one stops contributing to EPF scheme, the interest would still be given for 36 months on the accumulated balance. After which the EPF a/c would be treated as an inoperative one.
I understand, Sir.
I wish to know if a private EPF Trust owned by a company has the right to stop giving interests when the account becomes inoperative.
Dear Dinesh,
The PF Trust may frame their own rules and regulations for maintenance of PF accounts but such rules and regulations are supposed to be based on relevant PF rules. Yes, they do have the rights not to pay interest on inoperative accounts.
Hi shreekanth, I have been trying since more than a month now to withdraw my PF. a few weeks ago i realized that my account is now inoperative. as i am not working anywhere and i do not have another PF account, I applied on the Inoperative helpdesk. I got a reference number but i could never login into my helpdesk account as it always aid invalid ref/mobile number. Then as suggested on some other blog, I re-did the steps and again made a new account and this time i could login. I used to check it everyday since 6 days ago when i made the account, and since two days, again i am facing the same problem where it says “Either User Name or Password NOT Valid! Please Try Again with correct detail”.
I even tried following the “forgot reference number” page and put in my details but it says details not valid. I am sure i have been putting in the correct details as i was able to login since last 4-5 days. Any suggestions on what shall i do next??? Thanks in advance.
Dear Varun..Suggest you to submit your grievance though EPFO helpdesk.
Very useful and informative portal. I have question. I had done all the steps till ‘Once your account is traced by the EPFO’s field officer, you will be notified through an SMS. You need to either withdraw the monies (by submitting Form 9) or transfer your old EPF account to your current EPF account’ for my inoperative account.
After that what I need to do? Even I have UAN no from my current company. When I will come to know that I can transfer my old pf amount (inoperative account) to my current pf account ?
Thanks,
Imran
Dear Imran..Till you get information/confirmation from EPFO. You can also track your service request based on the reference no.
Hi Shreekanth,
Its been one month, I didn’t get any information/confirmation from EPFO for my inoperative account. What I can do further ? do we have any timeline for EPFO to give any information to me ?
Thanks
Dear Imran,
I am not very sure about the time-line. You may submit your grievance here..click here..
Hi Shreekanth, this is Ranjan from Mumbai. I have a query about PF account.
Is there any way to find out my PF account number from ‘Company Establishment Code’ details? As the company has been closed since 6+ years, I cant contact the admin dept also to get my PF account.
Do you know anyone who can help or do you have any email details whom I can contact?
Dear Jyotiranjan..You can raise service request as per the above mentioned points, kindly give whatever details you have while submitting the online request.
Once you receive SMS confirmation/info from EPFO, you may transfer the old PF monies to your new one (if you are currently employed and contributing to EPF).
Dear Sreekanth,
Thank you for answering this.
I wanted to claim my funds from previous three organisations which i worked back in 2007/10/12 i got a UAN number from my last employer my doubt is will all last worked companies come under this UAN number? I have not operated any of these pf accounts i was told to write a letter to PF commisioner. Can you please help me understand this its so confusing and mind boggling. one of my pf account number is KN/46370/36689 i have no clue how to find out my account balance. your help and time is much appreciated.
Best,
Sameer
Dear Sameer,
All the three old EPF account might have been converted into ‘inoperative accounts’. Suggest you to raise a service request by following the steps given in the article.
Once you get confirmation from EPFO office, you can transfer all the monies from three accounts to your current EPF account.
Read : EPF online transfer procedure.
Hi Sreekanth Reddy,
I am residing in Bangalore. In 2007 my company was closed and I withdraw my pf amount. Now i got a new job and I need to reactivate my Pf account and I want to get UAN number for that old PF Account. How to reactivate my old PF Account? Is there any way to get UAN for that old PF A/c which I need to submit to my new employer.
My PF account is in old format with that I am unable to get any information in online. Please help me.
Thanks and Regards
Satish Kumar
Dear Satish,
You can generate UAN now online.
Once you get UAN, you can provide this to your new employer. After that you can get your KYC (bank,PAN,aadhar no) get seeded to new UAN and verified by your employer.
UAN is a unique number and only one will be issued.
Hi thank for reply, is this new UAN is linked with my inoperative PF account once it get in active mode? and is employer is able to verify all my past details of PF account once it has been linked with my old pf account?.
Dear Satish,
You can update your previous Member-Id (old EPF a/c). The name in the previous ID should match with the name of the current member-id.
hi,
Is it possible to activate UAN without Member Id?
while activating New UAN it is asking me my Member ID.
My Memeber Id is in now inoperative mode and i got information saying by ”it got settled” and information send it to concerned regional office for further action to be taken. And they are saying they inform soon.
Dear Satish,
Yes, it is possible.
Read this article.
Hi.
This is Indu from Pune. I had worked in a co in Mumbai in the year 2002-2004 for 18m. I did not file for claim of the pf withdrawal or transfer. It is now more than 12y. Can I now transfer that old PF to the current co PF number of UAN. Thanks. Indu. How to do that. Just follow up the above ?
Dear Indumathy,
Yup, kindly first submit ‘service request’ as per the above details.
After few days you may receive the status update from EPFO, then you can transfer the old EPF ac monies online.
Hi, Thanks, I got the old PF details from old salary slips discovered finally, and have submitted the online request with all details. I shall wait for their responses.
Is it mandatory to transfer those unclaimed to current UAN or can we get that credit to our acct ?
Thanks
Indumathy Narayanan.
Dear Indumathy..If you are currently employed and have active UAN, you have to transfer the funds to your new EPF a/c.
Hi Thanks,
In that article only UAN generation is there. But I already got UAN. I want to know is there any option to Activate that UAN without Member id is created. My Member Id is in inoperative mode and my account got settled. so system says my Member Id is wrong while I am going to activate my UAN. So Kindly guide me whether i need to wait till my new employer creates new Member-Id for me so that I can activate my UAN based on that or i can Activate it without that now itself.
Dear Satish,
Then in this scenario, sugggest you to kindly wait till you get new-member Id and then use it to activate your UAN.
Thank You very much for your suggestion on this regard. I keep in touch regarding this in future.
Satish.
Hello sir,
I am planning to withdraw my pf amount. I heard that the new procedure of EPF withdrawal without employer’s attestation has come into the picture. I am planning to withdraw through this. I just want to know which is my concerned pf office so that I can submit the related documents as well as with new procedure what time it will take to get my amount. Waiting for your reply
Dear Malik,
Kindly read : ‘New EPF withdrawal forms‘…
Hi Sree,
A lot of helping things here and for all these, thanks to you.
I have an inoperative a/c as my PF. I’ve gone through the methods as suggested by you and I’m happy to get my PF a/c no.
Now I want to withdraw the whatever deposit I got. Can I proceed directly by submitting forms? If so, which form? Is it different from the operative a/c holders? can I raise service request to know my PF balance if I don’t have any existing UAN?
Could you plz mail me your suggestions….
Dear Lalit,
It is very easy to generate & activate UAN online. Once you do this you can just give missed call and get the EPF balance details.
Read:
How to generate UAN online?
How to Check EPF balance?
If you have used above service (inoperative helpdesk), you can let EPFO officer know that you are unemployed (assumption) and withdraw your EPF monies. If you are currently employed, you can transfer old ac monies to your new ac.
Hello Shree,
Thanks for responding.
I am currently employed and I already have a UAN through my current EPF a/c in Assam. But I don’t want to transfer my money(from previous a/c in Maharashtra) to the existing(current) a/c. Now my question is- can I create/activate one more for the previous a/c? I won’t have any problem for activating two UANs?
Dear Lalit,
If you are currently employed then ideally you have to transfer your old EPF account monies to the new one.
Read : How to make online EPF A/c transfer?
I forget my epf account number please any boldy help me name is Luncha
Hi Mr. Sreekanth Reddy. Good Day. This is L.V. Sastry, a Sr. Citizen from Hyderabad. On 30-10-2015 I sought some guidance from you about payment of PF Interest for the Inoperative PF Accout for the period beyond 36 months in respect of PF transfer from my previous Employer to present Employer. May I request you to kindly expedite the same at the earliest as I have to get about Rs.70,000/- from my previous Employer towards PF interest for the Inoperative PF account for the period beyond 36 months as my case is a PF Transfer and not PF withdrawal. Thanks. LV Sastry.
Dear Mr Sastry ..Kindly note that we only provide information for knowledge purposes and are not associated with EFPO in providing the services. Kindly contact EFPO.
Dear Sir,
When i downloaded my EPF passbook procedure and know my epf balance procedure it is showing inoperative Account. so i just want to know what is the meaning of this thing and how can i reaccess my epf account as my previous employer whose account is this is not giving any right information. what is the procedure for reactivate my account?
when is submit the on line pf transfer form current employer approved while previous employer whose account is this rejected. so in this condition how can i transfer my balance.
Please help me out.
Thanks.
Dear Prashant,
If no contributions are made for 36 months, EPF account is treated as in-operative account.
You can use above helpdesk link to contact EPFO and can request them to make it active. You can then transfer old EPF a/c money to your new one through UAN portal.
Sir i don’t know my Pf account num how can i know .i have already resigned from that company .iwant to apply pf.no one is responding to give Pf number in that organisation.
Dear yamini..Did you raise service request using above heldesk link? You can provide all the details that you are aware of and EPFO will get back to you about your ePF a/c details. You can also find your EPF a/c no on your payslip or final settlement doc etc.
Dear Sir,I have leave my old company 7 years ago in bangalore now i am staying in odisha .I have already send all the document to my employer for settlement my pf a/c but employer not responding and one more time i send all the document to EPF office they will say me that your DOB and DOJ and Date of leaving is not mention by employer,actually i forgot my joining date and leaving date.now i want to settlement my pf a/c kindly help me how can i get my pf amount.
Dear Rabindra,
Your Ex-employer has to assist you in this case. Are you currently employed and contributing to EPF scheme?
Dear Sreekanth, I left the organisation in 2008 and after that I didnt claimed my PF. In 2009 the company was taken over by other Company. Now it has been 7 yrs that I didnt withdraw my PF. Request you to kindly guide me with the procedure for withdrawal. I have my PF a/c no with salary slip.
My point here is that my company where I was working was taken over / purchased by other company .Can I directly apply for withdrawal at PF office?
Pls assist
Regards
Saket
Dear SAKET,
Suggest you to first submit a request through helpdesk link as provided in the article.
You can also submit the Withdrawal form + PAN card copy at EPFO office.
Since your EPF a/c is not linked with UAN you need Ex-employer’s attestation on withdrawal form. But it is not possible for you to get this done.
So, you can submit Affidavit + get attestation of withdrawal form by any gazetted officer , and then you can submit the docs at EPFO office.
Suggest you to check with them first and proceed.
Dear Sreekanth,
I have tried akot but I am not geting the text after clicking on ” generate pin”.
Is there any specific time window for that or is there any email id available of the same team??
Dear Deepak..i am not sure what could be the reason. You can contact the EPFO office directly in person.
i ned to chech tn/40308/2264
Hi,
Few years back my mom worked in a shoe company for 22 years , her account is now in inactive status .actually the problem is my mom don’t have proper age proof and we are unable to get age proof since she didn’t do schooling and no one is there to help in native place too , my marriage is nearing and her PF account will be more useful . Is that aadhar card enough for age proof ? or is there any process like medical test , court so on.. kindly help me how to claim PF amount and do needful soon ..
Dear Fathi,
I believe that Aadhar card should be a good enough document for age proof.Kindly raise a request using above helpdesk facility. (or) You may approach nearest EPFO regional office too.
Once you have EPF a/c details, you can submit the withdrawal request to Ex-employer.
Hello Sir,
The ‘Inoperative A/c Helpdesk’ link is not working. It says the webpage is not available. I have tried many times on different machines. Is the facility still there? Is there any alternative?
Thanks a lot!!
Sandeep
Dear Sandeep..I am able to access the link, just now checked it using Google Chrome browser. Try accessing it from a different location and not just a different machine.
Hi Srikanth,
I have worked for 7.7 years in a organization and resigned last month, after that I joined a new company where I got new pf account number linked with my UAN account.
I would like to know that am I eligible to withdraw my previous company pf ? when can I apply for pf withdrawal?
Regards,
Muniraj
Dear Raju,
As you are currently employed, legally you should transfer your old EPF monies to your new acccount.
Kindly go through my article – EPF online transfer through OCTP.
Hi Sree,
I really need to withdraw my PF for my sister’s marriage. How can I do that ?
I left my previous organization 7 months before and I worked there for 2.7 years. Is there any way to withdraw my PF ?
Thanks,
Alok
Dear Alok.. Are you currently employed?
You can contact your ex-employer and submit EPF withdrawal form along with PAN details.
Your withdrawals may be subject to TDS. Read my article : EPF Withdrawals & new TDS rules.
Hi Sree,
Yes I am currently employed.
My previous employer is saying that they I can only transfer the money to some other PF account.
Is IT ?
As per EPFO website current circular I can withdraw my PF money after paying TDS .
Please suggest how I can go for Withdrawl ?
Thanks & Regards,
Alok Singh
Dear Alok,
If you are currently employed then legally you need to transfer your old EPF ac money to your new account.
Hi Sree
Can I get the details of my inoperative EPF account, like when my account was opened, my monthly contribution etc. And other details
Dear Mohammed,
You may not get the required details, but you can trace the account and link it to your existing (if any) EPF account, after which you can keep a track of the entire fund.
Also, when you receive a call from EPFO team you may try to get the details.
Thank you Very much Sreekanth Reddy
Hi Mr. Sreekanth Reddy. Good Day. This is LV Sastry, a Sr. Citizen from Hyderabad.
Have you come accrossed any case law on payment of Interest for the In-operative PF Account for the period beyond 36 months. If so may I request you to pl. share copy of the same to my mail ID: [email protected], as I have to get some PF interest for the In-operative PF Account for the period beyond 36 months from my previous Employer. Following are my details pl.
-Aafter serving for about 12 years I was Superannuated on 31-7-2010 from a Mumbai based MNC who is having an Exempted PF Trust.
-Thereafter I re-joined as a regular employee in a Private Ltd., Co., on 15-12-2010 ie., within a period of 36 months in which they started depositing my monthly contributions right from the day one ie., from 15-12-2010 with RPFC, Patancheru, Telangana.
-Sometime in Feb.2014 through my present Employer and through RPFC, Patancheru I have requested my previous Employer ie., Exempted PF Trust to transfer my PF accumulations together with updated Interest to RPFC, Patancheru.
-However while transferring my PF accumulations sometime in March 2014 they have paid interest upto 31-7-2013 only(36 months only) and not paid the PF interest for the period 1-8-2013 to March 2014 ie., for about 8 months which resulted in a short payment of about Rs.70,000/- towards interest for the in effective PF Account. Whereas my previous Employer ie., PF Trust earned the interest on my money for the balance 8 months also and the same is with the PF Trust only. After I left my previous Employer on my Superannuation they have neither settled my PF within the stipulated statutory period nor they reminded me any thing on this.
Initially (some time in April/May 2014) when I requested them to pay balance interest also for the remaining 8 months they said the programme which they adopted permits them to calculate interest for 36 months only and not beyond that. Once again when I represented the matter the PF Trust suggested to obtain written orders from PF Authorities.
Subsequently when I represented the matter, instead of examining all the above points in detail RPFC, Bandra East, Mumbai ( as my previous Co.(PF Trust) is under their jurisidication) simply informed that interest will not be paid beyond 36 months.
– In this connection may I request you to pl. go through the relevant link —http//:www.livemint.com/Politics/LswkUw6wiYzsw5rG7XiCvI/ Inactive -EPF-accounts, about Inactive EPF accounts to earn Interest: Government published in Live Mint on 01.12.2012. According to which in the case of Transfer of In-effective PF accounts from previous Organisation to present Organisation Government of India decided to pay the Interest even for the period beyond 36 months and no interest will be paid for the cases of withdrawal of amounts from Ineffective PF accounts.
As my case is a transfer case and not a case of PF withdrawal and further as it is an hard earned money and you will also agree with me that every paisa is valuable particularly in the fall of life of a Sr.Citizen may I request you to kindly guide me that how to get my balance PF Interest also from my previous Employer. For further details, if any, I may be contacted on 09866077163.(Mobile) and on my Mail id: [email protected].
There may be number of other similar victims also like me.
Best Regards,
LV Sastry.
09866077163.(Mobile).
Mail id: [email protected].
THANKS MR . Lv Sastry but i send full detail you next day .\
my number 9509520259,9828090201
Hi Sreekanth,
I have a doubt regarding the UAN form filling , though I entered the correct mobile number and filling the form I am not getting the PIN number to my mobile Thanks in advance if u can help me ?
Dear Anil..Kindly check with your employer or Kindly contact EPFO .
Helpdesk Number : 1800 118 005
Helpdesk Email Id: [email protected]
Sir
I am having my old EPF NO- Sir how I can link my UAN
(Adhar Card Number) to old EPF
Dear Santosh..Kindly go through my article : All about UAN and revert to me if you need more info.
Hi Sree,
First of all, thanks a lot for all the efforts you have taken to help people like us who are having issues with the inoperable PF account.
I did all the things exactly as mentioned by you. I submitted my request. The very next day I got the message from the help desk saying,
“May kindly contact concerned PF Office as these cases are not being handled by this inoperative helpdesk. Further the facility to know PF Balance/Transfer/ Claim Settlement/NAME CHANGE available at website http://www.epfindia.gov.in May kindly visit the same”
Is this the right way? Or have they changed their process in last few days?
Please update me. It’s pretty urgent. Thanks again.
Dear Tejal,
What is your ‘service request’ all about?
Sree, how can I changed my name listed on the previous PF account no. which was assigned to me while Iwas working in my previous company?? I am not able to withdrew my previous company PF amount due to name mismatch and I am not sure how my name is listed on that PF. Need Help
Dear Deepak,
To get your name corrected, you may have to submit KYC documents (ID proof copy) to your Ex-employer and they in-turn can forward the request to EPFO office. EPFO will then update the database after verifying the docs. Kindly contact your ex-employer.
I did not receive any OTP pin when i click on Generate pin the message says OTP pin sent to your mobile no.
Dear Deepak..You may try again after sometime..
After filling up Kyc detail and clicking on Generate pin the pop up said the pin has been successfully sent to the mobile number but i never received the OTP pin on the mobile no. which i m using right now.
Hi,
I have tracked my old EPF a/c and have listed it as “previous member id” in UAN portal “http://uanmembers.epfoservices.in/home.php” but i am not able to download the passbook for this id.
Could you please let me know does this old EPF a/c is linked with my UAN ? and whether i can transfer this old EPF a/c to my current employer PF a/c ?
Dear Samrat,
Yes, you can do online transfer of your old EPF a/c monies to your new EPF A/c and then you can download the consolidated statement.
It is very much help ful.
Hi,
While using transfer PF online portal, I am getting wrong name (my actual name is MOHD VAKEEL but in my pf ac name MD VAKEEL) when I enter my previous pf account number. Whom should I contact and how? Should I contact my previous employer or some organisation from government? If some organisation , which one? Please help and advise.
I WANT WITHDRAWAL MY OLD PF PLS SUGGEST
my employer paid a monthly my pf but how to see ?
Activate ur UAN no
Then you can know yr pf every month
I don’t have PF number of my old company and I raised a request with the respective EPF office after tracking the employer details in the EPF portal but they have not found any account dormant in my name they say. Is there a way to track the same.
Dear rajeshwarie,
You may contact your Ex-employer and try to find out the EPF a/c number. Is this possible?
Hi,
While using transfer PF online portal, I am getting wrong name and other details when I enter my previous pf account number. Whom should I contact and how? Should I contact my previous employer or some organisation from government? If some organisation , which one? Please help and advise.
Dear Gunjan,
You can contact EPFO directly. Visit nearest EPFO office. Click here to know your nearest EPF office.
You may have to submit some KYC documents to modify your personal details.
nice and helpful article — Thx
Hai sree, I had my PF account in the year of 2005. Is there any problem to create new PF account today?. Is yes, then how can i trace and find my account number, i do have either salary slip nor ESI number
Dear vivekanandan..Kindly raise a service request as indicated in the article.
whenever I click on Inoperative A/c Helpdesk, its showing network error.This is happening continuously from many days. Is there any other option?
Dear Vikram… even heard the same from few blog visitors, I guess the EPFO’s websites and its online services are being upgraded. They had displayed ‘maintenance message’ last few days. Kindly check out after couple of days.
I’ve worked for a company named American Remedies during 1997 to 1998 , for around a year . Latter as per my information the company was bought over by Dr Reddy , My PF amount was with American Remedies now can I approach Dr Reddy for this claim ..? If yes how to approach like any email id of account dept as i tried to call them on phone the response is not good.
Dear Manoj,
If you have old EPF ac details , suggest you raise a Service request using EPFO’s helpdesk as indicated in the above article.
Dear srikant
3 1/2 years ago, I worked for a company for 5 Years. I hadn’t with Drawn the amount or Transfer it to the Current Employee Account. But when i had checked the Previous PF status it was showing the below message.
Your Account has been marked as In-operative Account. For details please contact respective EPF Office.
Now my Current Employer will be creating UAN Account(Universal Account No). Can i transfer the Old PF Account no to UAN even if the old PF account status is and In-operative Account. Do i need to follow the steps for Inoperative account and follow with the EPFO helpdesk
Dear Kishore,
Yes you can raise a ‘Service request’ through helpdesk portal and link your old EPF a/c with your UAN and transfer the monies.
Hi Sreekanth,
How to raise ‘Service request through helpdesk portal. Is there any link available. How much time it will to transfer the money to UAN
Dear Kishore,
Did you go through the above article??
Dear srikant
7 years ago, I worked for a company for about 10 months(06/2007 to 04/2008).After leaving the company i did not receive my pf.
I have provided details for my account tracing in EPFO Inoperative Account Help Desk Portal.
Nearly after a week i have logged in to check for an update,
then a popup displayed saying “Your case has been disposed.Thankyou”,
and in the messages column i got 2 messages
1) “From the information provided, as per our records your Member A/c is settled. However case is transferred to concerned field office.you will be contacted shortly.”
2) “Please mention your Problem.”
Now what i want to ask you is I have not understood the messages sent by helpdesk.
what does concerned field office mean?
In the 2nd message they asked me to mention my problem, I dont know how to mention the problem as there is no edit/ submit option.
Also kindly tell me the detailed procedure to get the PF money into bank account for the period from june 2007 to april 2008.
Dear Sirish,
Looks like, as per EPFo’s records your PF money was already transferred. But, they have transferred your request to the concerned Regional EPF office to verify
the matter. The regional PF office may contact you at the earliest. Do provide all the details that you have to them.
Dear srikath,
When I have filled the EPFO inoperative accounts helpdest & I am clicking generate pin it is not responding or generating the pin & the page is stopped when I am doing this.
Please help me regarding this.
Dear Mohan,
Try to fill the details and submit again (or) try after sometime.
when i am check my last company EPF balance i got Error.
( Your Account has been marked as In-operative Account. For details please contact respective EPF Office.)
what should i do i have all details .
Dear Sameer,
Submit the request as mentioned in the above article. Or you can approach the concerned EPFO regional office. The addresses are available on EPFO’s websites.
Hi Srikanth,
I have one question, can i edit my PF number anytime, if there is any typo error?
Thank you
Dear Pavan,
You may contact your employer.
how I know my account no ,please help me sir.
Dear Chitta Ranjan,
Suggest you to visit your nearest EPFO regional office.
I don’t know my account no. i join in a company in 2006. unfortunately I miss my account no. I get the company code from my friend. now a days company collapse. so I don’t found my account no. I contact with epfo help desk at Kolkata ,but they ignore to me without account no. so I registered in epfo inoperative account no they give me a reference no and contact you soon from February
Brother Sreekanth Reddy’
I have Previews epf account number, I trace my PF account number EPF help desk i got my pf number. I need to get my pf balance my account, How to get pf money ? while checking epf wepsite my balance it will come your account marked Inoperative account kindly contact epf office, my Previews company was closed long back. and iam trying to epf wepsite enter Previews and current epf details but i dont have current pf account, when i leave old office iam doing self employe, i have only Previews pf account only. how to get my pf money..
Dear Mohammadu,
Small correction, it should be ‘previous’ and not ‘previews’.
You may have to visit your area EPF office in person. Submit the completed ‘withdrawal form’ (visit EPFO website – click here to select applcable form). Get the form attested by a Public Notary. Since you are not employed, make an affidavit that you are not employed elsewhere and hence withdrawing your EPF money. Submit these documents at regional EPF office. Remember, employer’s signature is not required. If possible, submit proofs (if any) that your the company has shutdown its operations.
Revert to me if you need any help.
I have filled up the form for the INOPERATIVE EPF Account on the online portal . But it does not send a Pin number on my phone, although it says the PIN has been successfully sent to your mobile.
I have tried multiple times but there is nothing and also no helpline number to call.
Please can you tell me what to do.
Dear Eva,
Did you provide correct mobile number?
I am not sure as to what could be the reason..
Hello Shreekanth, I have read all your articles and I like them all as it gives interesting and helpful information….
Thank you Manali. Keep visiting!
Hello, At present, I’m in Compnay ‘Z’ . My pas companies were X and Y.
I had requested the transfer PF from X to Y 5 years ago. But still amount is not credited into Y account due to technical issue(as per PF office).
But from X, amount is already transferred but not credited into Y.
Please suggest what shall i do now?
My another question is: By simply linking inoperative PF account to UAN, will govt pay interest ?
THanks
Mahantesh
Dear Mahantesh,
What are the ‘technical issues’?
Even if you do not link, the interest amount is payable (provided the EPF a/c is not a dormant account)
EPF IP account link is not works. Please check
Dear Chaitanya,
Are you referring to the links that are provided in my article (i checked, url links are fine), or EPFO’s website is unavailable?
I worked with Fidelity Investments at Level 9, Level 21, DLF Square Building, Jacaranda Marg, Gurgaon and Unitech Business Park Gurgaon worklocations of also named Fidelity Technology India Pvt. Ltd, and they issued me payslips with a HR PF Number. When I enter the same HR PF Number at the EPFO website it shows as record not found. And the message from EPFO says that they will contact me since about a month ago. Is there a way to get to my PF as I need the funds now as I’m unemployed and need the money now.
Dear Zubin,
Did you try contacting your previous employer?
I heard that Fidelity IT division (India) has been shut down ? Is this true?
Thanks for your valuable advice Sreekanth..Keep up the good work. To the best of knowledge Fidelity IT Division was closed sometime during 2010. But some of the IT sub- contractors , developers and vendors like Polaris may still be functioning
Dear Zubin,
Are you able to trace your PF a/c? Did you get reply from EPFO helpdesk?
Yes, thank you Sreekanth they did sort of reply, but only sort of. They’ve closed my case on their own with the closing remarks that such and such were my EPF and EPS accumulations as on April 2015, but they’ve not indicated the inoperative account number or told me how to access it as I may need it in the short term future ( I think I did not exceed the ten year lock in period). They should atleast have the courtesy to give me a new INOPERATIVE ACCOUNT NUMBER, and tell me how to redeem all the cash in it, as its just lying dormant. Do you know if they will Sreekanth issue all the inoperative account holders a live account number?
Dear Zubin,
Suggest you to contact the nearest EPFO office and get this done at the earliest. You may find the contact addresses on EPFO’s website.
I WILL LEFT THE JOB SENTAC SALES PVT LTD.YEAR OF 2006.MY PF NO-4907.
AND HOW CAN REFUND OUR PF ,SO PLEASE HELP ME.
Dear Ujjal,
Kindly follow the steps mentioned in the article.
Visit the helpdesk portal and raise a service request. Provide your details in the request.
Excellent Srikanth..We are learning all investment related option.
Thansk you very much indeed.
Sivaram
Dear Sivaram,
How have you been?
Thank you for your appreciation. Its mutual learning. Cheers!
Hello guys what a nice blog that gives information of Employees’ Provident Fund Organization. Really nice organization for fund. thanks keep it up.
Dear Srikant
Can we use this facility to track EPS account?
Also can we use this facility for the private PF trusts?
Regards
Sunil
Dear Sunil,
I believe you can track EPS a/c too.
EPFO has also brought PF trusts under online account management (but i believe the work is still under process..mapping with UAN etc.,)
Hi Sreekanth Reddy,
Thanks for the information your blog is nice, i used to check your blog daily all the information u are posting are great, keep up the good work,
I followed the steps for inoperative EPF account, i got the reference no, but it has been two days but no response or updates, usually how long will it take
Regards,
Bala
Dear Balakrishnan,
Thank you for reading my blog articles.
Have you submitted all the details?
I believe, you may get response from EPFO helpdesk withing 2 to 3 weeks (but it depends on how much information have you given to them…to trace your old epf ac)
Account details